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	<title>Comments on: Brand Seduction/spambod</title>
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	<description>mediated space etc.</description>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/brand-seductionspambod/comment-page-1#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its already happening bigtime in meatspace so i&#039;d lay bets that there are *many* spambods out there already.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/23/60minutes/main579657.shtml

what sucks about the Friendster equivalent is you can&#039;t kick your spambod in the nuts ... i guess you just get your &lt;em&gt;real&lt;/em&gt; friends together and plan a DoS ... which would probably flush out any remaining spambods.

given research of late, all things magical and secret appear to be tracable in the USPTO database.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its already happening bigtime in meatspace so i&#8217;d lay bets that there are *many* spambods out there already.<br />
<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/23/60minutes/main579657.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/23/60minutes/main579657.shtml</a></p>
<p>what sucks about the Friendster equivalent is you can&#8217;t kick your spambod in the nuts &#8230; i guess you just get your <em>real</em> friends together and plan a DoS &#8230; which would probably flush out any remaining spambods.</p>
<p>given research of late, all things magical and secret appear to be tracable in the USPTO database.</p>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/brand-seductionspambod/comment-page-1#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think SN-based spamboddery takes this to the next level -- the crafty bit is trawling social network tools to find these people even when they&#039;re non-obvious influencers, and commencing a &lt;i&gt;brand seduction&lt;/i&gt;... not just being &lt;i&gt;in&lt;/i&gt; a place where the cool kids are, but knowing &lt;i&gt;which&lt;/i&gt; individual kids are the ones that matter -- i&#039;m imagining that spambods would have a longer-term relationship with their marks, ingratiating their ways, cable-guy-like, into their lives and the lives of their friends...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think SN-based spamboddery takes this to the next level &#8212; the crafty bit is trawling social network tools to find these people even when they&#8217;re non-obvious influencers, and commencing a <i>brand seduction</i>&#8230; not just being <i>in</i> a place where the cool kids are, but knowing <i>which</i> individual kids are the ones that matter &#8212; i&#8217;m imagining that spambods would have a longer-term relationship with their marks, ingratiating their ways, cable-guy-like, into their lives and the lives of their friends&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/brand-seductionspambod/comment-page-1#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and of course the next obvious question concerns the EULA for all those SNA sites. Does their business model assume that at some point they sell their lovely digraphs of to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.acxiom.com/&quot;&gt;Acxiom&lt;/a&gt; or similar? If so, would be interesting to try some link poisoning and see what happens a few months down the track...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and of course the next obvious question concerns the EULA for all those SNA sites. Does their business model assume that at some point they sell their lovely digraphs of to <a href="http://www.acxiom.com/">Acxiom</a> or similar? If so, would be interesting to try some link poisoning and see what happens a few months down the track&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/brand-seductionspambod/comment-page-1#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Others have been thinking &lt;a href=&quot;http://redherring.com//ForumPage_092303-02.aspx&quot;&gt;similar thoughts&lt;/a&gt; about both complexity and possible exploitation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Others have been thinking <a href="http://redherring.com//ForumPage_092303-02.aspx">similar thoughts</a> about both complexity and possible exploitation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adriana</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/brand-seductionspambod/comment-page-1#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Adriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does the hunt for a &#039;viable business model&#039; for grassroots or bottom-up online phenomena usually turns unsavoury in its marketing e.g. the Emode Friend Network or caught up in proprietory rigidity e.g. Friendster. I share the concerns of Jerry Michalski in the article linked in the comment above.

It seems that emergent phenomena are not easily converted to top-down business models for VC firms to understand and fund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does the hunt for a &#8216;viable business model&#8217; for grassroots or bottom-up online phenomena usually turns unsavoury in its marketing e.g. the Emode Friend Network or caught up in proprietory rigidity e.g. Friendster. I share the concerns of Jerry Michalski in the article linked in the comment above.</p>
<p>It seems that emergent phenomena are not easily converted to top-down business models for VC firms to understand and fund.</p>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/brand-seductionspambod/comment-page-1#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a very good question. I don&#039;t have an answer to that one, but its sad that my first thought about most of those businesses is indeed the suspicion that they feeding their nice network maps and weightings straight into someone&#039;s marketing model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a very good question. I don&#8217;t have an answer to that one, but its sad that my first thought about most of those businesses is indeed the suspicion that they feeding their nice network maps and weightings straight into someone&#8217;s marketing model.</p>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/brand-seductionspambod/comment-page-1#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and indeed people are starting to &lt;a href=&quot;http://securityfocus.com/news/7739&quot;&gt;pillage &lt;/a&gt; social network systems...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and indeed people are starting to <a href="http://securityfocus.com/news/7739">pillage </a> social network systems&#8230;</p>
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