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	<title>Comments on: Hand[le&#124;el](s) with Care</title>
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	<description>mediated space etc.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/handleels-with-care/comment-page-1#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...incidentally, I strongly suspect that Xanadu's gordian of forking paths would have supported such a model from day one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;incidentally, I strongly suspect that Xanadu&#8217;s gordian of forking paths would have supported such a model from day one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/handleels-with-care/comment-page-1#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the record industry has survived until recently because, obvioulsy, records are &lt;i&gt;heavy&lt;/i&gt;.
media is getting lighter and more inclined toward cloning.
cinema is safe for a little while.
existing DRM models seem to be aimed at making everything as heavy as possible.
&lt;i&gt;"is the act of listening and watching heavy or light"&lt;/i&gt;. There is a  &lt;i&gt;local loop&lt;/i&gt; between your decrypted media and your senses. I'm not thinking of the soultions here, but the philosophy of DRM I guess should be focused on that local loop space and not everything else ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the record industry has survived until recently because, obvioulsy, records are <i>heavy</i>.<br />
media is getting lighter and more inclined toward cloning.<br />
cinema is safe for a little while.<br />
existing DRM models seem to be aimed at making everything as heavy as possible.<br />
<i>&#8220;is the act of listening and watching heavy or light&#8221;</i>. There is a  <i>local loop</i> between your decrypted media and your senses. I&#8217;m not thinking of the soultions here, but the philosophy of DRM I guess should be focused on that local loop space and not everything else &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/handleels-with-care/comment-page-1#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah that's what i'm thinking. mp3 sites and ipod prove that people don't really give a shit about having a physical instance, but all the current drm is still about *your copy* -- and you only really become acutely aware of that when, say, your laptop dies for the third time and suddenly you've used up all your drm 'copy-to-another-machine-or-restore-from-backup' count. and then you're fucked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah that&#8217;s what i&#8217;m thinking. mp3 sites and ipod prove that people don&#8217;t really give a shit about having a physical instance, but all the current drm is still about *your copy* &#8212; and you only really become acutely aware of that when, say, your laptop dies for the third time and suddenly you&#8217;ve used up all your drm &#8216;copy-to-another-machine-or-restore-from-backup&#8217; count. and then you&#8217;re fucked.</p>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/handleels-with-care/comment-page-1#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the essence of this, which i will probably actually give one a post to, is that once we are delaing with nude media, &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; local store is a cache and a cache alone -- anyone telling you different is simply trying make money from you -- and any restriction that enforces you to consider your copies as special/needing care to protect, is likewise trying to exploit you. that's the point at which i have a problem with conventional DRM -- in all other respects i think its probablt a good thing, potentially...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the essence of this, which i will probably actually give one a post to, is that once we are delaing with nude media, <i>any</i> local store is a cache and a cache alone &#8212; anyone telling you different is simply trying make money from you &#8212; and any restriction that enforces you to consider your copies as special/needing care to protect, is likewise trying to exploit you. that&#8217;s the point at which i have a problem with conventional DRM &#8212; in all other respects i think its probablt a good thing, potentially&#8230;</p>
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