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	<description>mediated space etc.</description>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/heft/comment-page-1#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gravity comes to mind.

once wrote a short thing, more an image than a narrative/poem, "Spontaneously Combusting Giants" --
in which two giants, about half the height of the planet, have problems with the sun. Anyway, they literally gravitate toward one another. This was pre cellphone and there wasn't enough space to think about tools, but one can imagine the potential for a cellphone on that scale to literally stick to your ear ...

there is something very delicate in the relationships we have with tools ... probably the delicacy of the tools themselves. difficult to articulate but something like: &lt;i&gt;love is only plausible between the naked&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gravity comes to mind.</p>
<p>once wrote a short thing, more an image than a narrative/poem, &#8220;Spontaneously Combusting Giants&#8221; &#8211;<br />
in which two giants, about half the height of the planet, have problems with the sun. Anyway, they literally gravitate toward one another. This was pre cellphone and there wasn&#8217;t enough space to think about tools, but one can imagine the potential for a cellphone on that scale to literally stick to your ear &#8230;</p>
<p>there is something very delicate in the relationships we have with tools &#8230; probably the delicacy of the tools themselves. difficult to articulate but something like: <i>love is only plausible between the naked</i></p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/heft/comment-page-1#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;and we don't see tools as naked ... but they may become invisible&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>and we don&#8217;t see tools as naked &#8230; but they may become invisible</i></p>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/heft/comment-page-1#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the ones i'm thinking about already are...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the ones i&#8217;m thinking about already are&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/heft/comment-page-1#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Andy Clarke &#038; David Chalmer's &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://artsci.wustl.edu/~pnp/papers/clarkchalmers.extended.html"&gt;The Extended Mind&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; (i'm thinking about these kinds of things as tools we can't 'put down'):

&lt;i&gt;"The extraordinary efficiency of the fish as a swimming device is partly due, it now seems, to an evolved capacity to couple its swimming behaviors to the pools of external kinetic energy found as swirls, eddies and vortices in its watery environment. These vortices include both naturally occurring ones (e.g., where water hits a rock) and self-induced ones (created by well-timed tail flaps). The fish swims by building these externally occurring processes into the very heart of its locomotion routines. [...] Now consider a reliable feature of the human environment, such as the sea of words. This linguistic surround envelopes us from birth. Under such conditions, the plastic human brain will surely come to treat such structures as a reliable resource to be factored into the shaping of on-board cognitive routines. Where the fish flaps its tail to set up the eddies and vortices it subsequently exploits, we intervene in multiple linguistic media, creating local structures and disturbances whose reliable presence drives our ongoing internal processes. Words and external symbols are thus paramount among the cognitive vortices which help constitute human thought."&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Andy Clarke &#038; David Chalmer&#8217;s <i><a href="http://artsci.wustl.edu/~pnp/papers/clarkchalmers.extended.html">The Extended Mind</a></i> (i&#8217;m thinking about these kinds of things as tools we can&#8217;t &#8216;put down&#8217;):</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The extraordinary efficiency of the fish as a swimming device is partly due, it now seems, to an evolved capacity to couple its swimming behaviors to the pools of external kinetic energy found as swirls, eddies and vortices in its watery environment. These vortices include both naturally occurring ones (e.g., where water hits a rock) and self-induced ones (created by well-timed tail flaps). The fish swims by building these externally occurring processes into the very heart of its locomotion routines. [...] Now consider a reliable feature of the human environment, such as the sea of words. This linguistic surround envelopes us from birth. Under such conditions, the plastic human brain will surely come to treat such structures as a reliable resource to be factored into the shaping of on-board cognitive routines. Where the fish flaps its tail to set up the eddies and vortices it subsequently exploits, we intervene in multiple linguistic media, creating local structures and disturbances whose reliable presence drives our ongoing internal processes. Words and external symbols are thus paramount among the cognitive vortices which help constitute human thought.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/heft/comment-page-1#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>although of course we have, presumably, evolved to exploit language, whereas many of the tech tools have happened in the last few generations...presumably at some meta-level, though, we have adapted to make these kinds of tools, and to have the craft to adapt them to our needs faster than we ourselves evolve...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>although of course we have, presumably, evolved to exploit language, whereas many of the tech tools have happened in the last few generations&#8230;presumably at some meta-level, though, we have adapted to make these kinds of tools, and to have the craft to adapt them to our needs faster than we ourselves evolve&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/heft/comment-page-1#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what i was suggesting is &lt;i&gt;tools may be invisible but not naked ...&lt;/i&gt;

tools generate distinct &lt;i&gt;languages&lt;/i&gt; that are stored in &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; naked bodies. at best, the absence of the tool leaves you with something like a &lt;i&gt;phontom limb&lt;/i&gt;. at worst, the language that that tool evolved itself devolves to become invisible.

cf. Fahrenheit 451.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what i was suggesting is <i>tools may be invisible but not naked &#8230;</i></p>
<p>tools generate distinct <i>languages</i> that are stored in <i>our</i> naked bodies. at best, the absence of the tool leaves you with something like a <i>phontom limb</i>. at worst, the language that that tool evolved itself devolves to become invisible.</p>
<p>cf. Fahrenheit 451.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/heft/comment-page-1#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw: thinking above that the grayzone between something that you can or can't put down is as slippery as a fish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw: thinking above that the grayzone between something that you can or can&#8217;t put down is as slippery as a fish.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/heft/comment-page-1#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are some very cronenberg images in my mind at the moment -- especially bits from eXistenz (which I want to see again). 'What's so special about the special?'
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are some very cronenberg images in my mind at the moment &#8212; especially bits from eXistenz (which I want to see again). &#8216;What&#8217;s so special about the special?&#8217;</p>
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