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	<title>Comments on: (Not Necessarily) Talking &#8217;Bout a Revolution</title>
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	<description>mediated space etc.</description>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/not-necessarily-talking-bout-a-revolution/comment-page-1#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'Create anything but I'll break your fucking arms if you draw on the furniture' is very much how those Japanese businesses felt. And the welder-drones bent over backwards with creative kaizen to show their appreciation. I suspect the same is the case in businesses 'encouraging' blogging rather than being honest about how fucking scary it is to their business model...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Create anything but I&#8217;ll break your fucking arms if you draw on the furniture&#8217; is very much how those Japanese businesses felt. And the welder-drones bent over backwards with creative kaizen to show their appreciation. I suspect the same is the case in businesses &#8216;encouraging&#8217; blogging rather than being honest about how fucking scary it is to their business model&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/not-necessarily-talking-bout-a-revolution/comment-page-1#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and, oh, speaking of revolution today, those days of carefree censorshipless radio are over care of bottom-up idiots voting in top-down idiots. or was it the IT guys doing things sideways?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and, oh, speaking of revolution today, those days of carefree censorshipless radio are over care of bottom-up idiots voting in top-down idiots. or was it the IT guys doing things sideways?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://cluster.othermaps.com/not-necessarily-talking-bout-a-revolution/comment-page-1#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having witnessed the same workers, my understanding is, as you say, that the &lt;i&gt;almost complete freedom&lt;/i&gt; existed only because it was cocooned within a higher power and had rigid controls (much like giving a child a crayon and a piece of paper ... create anything but don't draw on the walls!)
I get the sense that bottom-up can work with &lt;i&gt;external&lt;/i&gt; limitations but not ones that impose a modification of the core intent ... think radio and it's censorship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having witnessed the same workers, my understanding is, as you say, that the <i>almost complete freedom</i> existed only because it was cocooned within a higher power and had rigid controls (much like giving a child a crayon and a piece of paper &#8230; create anything but don&#8217;t draw on the walls!)<br />
I get the sense that bottom-up can work with <i>external</i> limitations but not ones that impose a modification of the core intent &#8230; think radio and it&#8217;s censorship.</p>
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